Enrico 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Hi, I`m writing my master thesis and I need an help with tutorial HS 4200. I`ve done all the tutorial and I`ve found the parameters shown in the pdf. I`d like to print a comparison plot experimental data vs fitted curve, but I can`t do it. I tried to recover strain and stress in hyperview, but they are different from the experimental stress/strain. Please help me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahul R 316 Report post Posted June 2, 2016 Hypergraph you can use for plotting graph using build plot panel. Could you share some more information? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2016 Hi Rahul, sorry I'm everywhere... This is my problem: I've done the HS 4200 tutorial (there's a pdf file and a video http://www.altairhyperworks.com/training/new_feature_videos/12/videos/system_identification/system_identification.htm), about the simulation of a tensile test. The objective is to find the material property values of Radioss Law2 card such that Radioss simulation of the tensile test gives the same curve as the test. Then we can be confident in our material model for further simuations. I've done every step of the tutorial and I've found the same values: E = 60400 MPa; a = 120 MPa; b = 135.5; 0.26286 In the video, the comparison between the esperimental data and the simulation results is plotted (see the attachment) so I'd like to do the same. I try to plot the sigma-epsilon curve, using the Johnson-Cook formulation for the plastic zone: sigma = a + b * epsilon_PL ^n But the result is different from the experimental plot Then I tried recovering stress and displacement using Hyperview, but when I plot the results, they don't fit the experimental data. Thank you so much for your help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2016 can anyone help me please? I`ve tried to better explain my problem, please find pdf file attached. Moreover, you can find excel files thank you so much PROBLEM.pdf TUTORIAL_HS.xlsx TUTORIAL_RAD.xlsx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahul R 316 Report post Posted June 14, 2016 We are working on your query.we will update you soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2016 Thank you so much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 16, 2016 Hello Enrico, Can you tell the material values (a, b and n) you provided for this run?. Can you share the input file used for this run? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2016 Hi George, input file (.rad) are TENSILE_TEST_0000.rad and TENSILE_TEST_0001.rad (attached), which I find in tutorials folder, in Hyperworks installation directory; no changes have been made in input files. As you can see in HS 4200 tutorial, the optimized parameters are: a = 119.99 MPa b = 135.48 MPa n = 0.26286 I`ve found the same values, but unfortunately I can`t understand if they really fit experimental data. Thank you very much for your time and patience Enrico HS-4200 material calibration.pdf TENSILE_TEST_0000.rad TENSILE_TEST_0001.rad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahul R 316 Report post Posted June 16, 2016 I see you have used other value for a,b&n.See attached screenshot from shared problem.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) You can find HS 4200 results in the following pages of pdf file. I tried to make a similar reasoning with Example 11 of Radioss tutorial, to understand if I was completely wrong. So, in the first pages of pdf file I reported results for Radioss Example 11, then the ones for HS 4200 tutorial. Materials parameters were different in radioss example and hyperstudy tutorial. Radioss Example11: I can plot the diagram reported in pdf, until necking point (using values reported in example11 pdf) Hyperstudy HS-4200: I can`t plot the diagram reported in the tutorial video, see my second post: June 2 (using optimal values reported at the end of tutorial) Edited June 16, 2016 by Enrico I was not clear, sorry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rahul R 316 Report post Posted June 16, 2016 yes material parameter were different in Radioss example & Hst tutorial. I believe that is reason for not getting same curve.You can give a try with those a,b & n values defined in HST 4200 tutorial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2016 Sorry, I have not explained At first, I tried to plot the diagram I`ve found in Radioss Example11.pdf, using Example11 parameters (they are reported on the pdf file). The diagrams I`ve obtained seem to be similar to the pdf one, until necking point. Then, I made HS-4200 tutorial and I found the parameters reported in HS-4200.pdf. So, I tried to plot the sigma-epsilon diagram, using those parameters and Johnson Cook law; but the diagram I plot doesn`t fit the experimetal data. I can`t understand where I`m wrong I apologize for the inconvenient I may have caused Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 17, 2016 Enrico, Since you tried the same tutorial (HS 4200) with different material parameters (UTS changes to 223) the necking will not happen as you see in HS 4200 (where the UTS is 120). I think, this made the difference in your study. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2016 I`ve done HS4200 tutorial with Hs4200 parameters, I didn`t changed the values Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrico 0 Report post Posted June 20, 2016 I think that there is an error in tutorial file. In step 4.24 it says that surface is 12.012, but I think that it should be 6*1.7=10.2 mm^2 I repeted hyperstudy simulation, I found new a,b,n parameters which seem to fit esperiment.xy curve Please check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites